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Oooooo

So yesterday I was goofing off and browsing the internet. So I decided to go check out the website for Gothic Edge. The following pops up:

GOTHIC EDGE . . . Due to the business practices of Gothic Edge, this website has been suspended

WTF?

Is the company trying to tell us that the business practices of Gothic Edge are shady and therefore it has suspended the site, not to do business with them again?!?

Eeep!

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eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 25th, 2003 07:05 am (UTC)
Bout time you peeked that curly head of yours in!

:-D
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eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 25th, 2003 07:29 am (UTC)
*nods* I do the same with yours. Totally understand.
lordvazago
Mar. 25th, 2003 05:01 am (UTC)
It was all that seedy hero clix pr0n I bet.
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 25th, 2003 07:04 am (UTC)
It was all that seedy hero clix pr0n I bet.

pr0n? what is this pr0n of which you speak?
lordvazago
Mar. 25th, 2003 07:29 am (UTC)
Y'know, pr0n! Hero clix characters getting it on with one another.

Still don't understand? Ask your man, he understands the technogobblyguck.

w00t!
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 25th, 2003 07:50 am (UTC)
I know what p0rn is, but just not pr0n.

So what you are telling me is that pr0n is something similar to p0rn, eh?
writanya
Mar. 25th, 2003 06:45 am (UTC)
Just out of curiosity who was it that was doing the upkeep and had access to the site?
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 25th, 2003 06:59 am (UTC)
Ya know, I don't have clue one on who did what and who was supposed to handle which and who was who in the zoo.

But you would think with all the self-professed technogoobies they have fluttering around there and working there SOMEONE could have done the upkeep, access, etc.
(Anonymous)
Mar. 25th, 2003 08:30 am (UTC)
Yes Sweetie
but that would mean:

RESPONSIBILITY
ACCOUNTIBILITY

and being able to wake up in the morning on time.

Dita
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 26th, 2003 06:05 am (UTC)
Re: Yes Sweetie
I am in total agreement with your thoughts about responsibility and accountibility. Being my best friend, there are times when I know how you think and I know how you mean things and this is one of those times.

For the others who will not get it, such is life, because they are not us, or the others who think like us. And there are many who do not.

As for being able to wake up in the morning on time - well, not necessarily. See, our jobs (you, me, those who know who they are but whom I'm intentionally not pointing out) require us to be able to do this.

Then there are the retail jobs that do not open and start until later. Gothic Edge, last I heard, does not open until Noon and then stays open until like Midnight. But that is the last I heard.

And those technogoobies - bigstan being one - and the like, well, they tend to run their own show and work when they want to work. They do not appear to be on a time clock or time table that the rest of us so called "normies" are on.

Of course my goal is to get bigstan on one of those clocks and tables.

So while I do not personally condone NOT being on a table or clock - I will say it must be nice - yet those are the same people who do not appear to be making enough money. At least not in the beginning.

And you know, I missed out on this somewhere in my youth. If only we COULD turn back time. The plans you and I have in retrospect - those would be cool. That and the world would be at our mercy. Muwhahahahahahahahahaha

carpdeus
Mar. 25th, 2003 01:05 pm (UTC)
Gothic Edge....
I won't go into the reason why the Gothic Edge website you encountered is down, other than to say that Sthe person responsible is being childish.

The new and improved website is coming soon but you can sign up at www.gothicedgeonline.com so that you'll get an email in the next couple of weeks when it goes live with lots of interesting and new things.

Peace
-J <-- who is on his way to pick up Gracie from working there even as we speak
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 25th, 2003 05:03 pm (UTC)
Re: Gothic Edge....
Tisks and wags finger at J

If you get the email when a reply is posted to your LJ as I do you will know that I know what the S stands for.

Finger pointing is not called for.

My whole thoughts simply were a WTF? is all.

I am NOT taking sides as the "owners" of G.E. have been very kind to both my children and myself and I like them.

Plus there is the person who is going unnamed who is close to the love of my life and I like that person as well.

Yet realize that I am still considered a "newbie" in that circle so I don't know ANY of them well enough to be told to watch my back on all of them.

So you can say watch your back here or there but I prefer to allow all the benefit of the doubt until the first one cuts me. Then all support, friendship, trust, etc. is gone.

So please, for future reference, say that it is your opinion, yet don't point a finger. It is easy to be swayed in one direction without knowing both sides.

Just as in any couple in a relationship which you happen to be friends with. You know one but not the other perhaps, and you will immediately take sides with the one you know.

If I were not guilty of doing this, I would not mention it.

So call me a fence sitter, or what you will, but even if you had pointed the finger towards L or J I would be on the bandwagon for them too. Even if I do know them less than I know the other and even the other not that much.

I'm still pissed over the article in Cincinnati Mag and cannot for the life of me pound out a letter to the editor spouting my thoughts on the subject.

It burns my britches for all involved in the article. Can we say propoganda? Can we say the writer needs to go and take real journalism classes? Can we say the writer needs to be fired?

That article was not a newsworthy article. Not in any forum. Except maybe for the trash mags.

Sorry, there is my spout about that - and if you are the writer - sorry, but my opinion on the article still stands.

Thanks for the link, I look forward to checking it out at a future date.

Hi to Megan! From both myself and Stan.
gracemontgomery
Mar. 25th, 2003 07:15 pm (UTC)
Re: Gothic Edge....
Hey girlie! I figured J would not see this tonight since he is a morning person, so I'd take the opportunity to throw my two cents into the mix.

I'm not going to prance around the issue, Shadow is, to the best of my knowledge, the only person who currently has or has in the past had access to the webmaster controls of that website and thus can be considered responsible for the message on it. J's remark runs along the lines of many such tongue in cheek remarks that happen quite frequently in the shop. It's a way all of us cope with the stress that comes from broken friendships and betrayed trust. As he doesn't know you, I doubt that J knew you or Stan were close to Shadow. I doubt he would have made that comment if he had known. We're not out to alienate folks over this, just get through an unfortunate event with as much of our sanity and sense of humor left as possible.

That said, I want you and Stan to know that you are both very welcome at Gothic Edge anytime both by me personally and by the store as a business entity. I have no grudge against anyone who chooses to remain friends with Shadow, I have simply decided not to. I totally respect your choice to not make judgements against a person who has done you no wrong. That is an admirable stance, many people are quick to judge on little evidence, I am glad that you demand more than that.

I like you and Stan, and I hope to see you both soon. I'll be at the club Friday working as a vendor, maybe I'll see you there sometime.

~Megan
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 26th, 2003 04:38 am (UTC)
Re: Gothic Edge....
These are my opinions and thoughts on this only. In no way do they reflect the thoughts or opinions of Shadow or bigstan and I request that they are not construed as such. I'm speaking for me and me alone. Having said that . . .

J's remark runs along the lines of many such tongue in cheek remarks
that happen quite frequently in the shop. It's a way all of us cope with the
stress that comes from broken friendships and betrayed trust.


No one is a winner in this situation. From my perspective everyone on both sides are experiencing this pain and stress. Betrayal, no matter WHO has done it to whom hurts.

Yet if there were ever really a true friendship involved, then comments such as these would never be made. When a true friendship existed, those feeling the betrayal, on either side, should refrain from making any type of - as you put it - tongue in cheek remarks.

Therefore, if this is the case from the shop - I would personally chastise each and every individual who makes them. You, J, etc. I'm not kidding.

In addition, if this is truly the case, then I would certainly not visit a store wherein I knew that this type of backbiting/stabbing were occurring, nor would I refer this type of a store to any of my friends. Trust me, I have referred many friends to Gothic Edge because I like what they sell and I know that these friends would also. However, there are many other stores around an area I am familiar with who also sell these items and I can just as easily go there and refer my friends to these other places. No, this is not a threat to anyone, I am merely expressing my thoughts on the behavior you have described as taking place at the shop.

I personally would be ashamed to work in a place where backbiting/stabbing occurs as vicious as what I am perceiving through what is NOT said as taking place.

And yes, I have worked in places where this type of behavior has occurred. And yes, I was ashamed to work there. And yes, I have left due to this behavior.

From Shadow, I have heard nothing bad at all said. No tongue in cheek comments, not one damn thing. He simply tells me that he has nothing to say. The only person who has ever told me anything that happened has been Stan from what he has heard and pieced together from what has NOT been said. And even then I cannot say that he has all of his facts straight. Simply because I do not know.

Heresay is the worst, from any direction. I am guilty of passing it on as well. I cannot say I'm proud of the fact that I am guilty, but only that I am guilty.

The thought of someone who used to be called a friend making such tongue in cheek remarks about the former friend, hurts. It hurts me. It pains me. It angers me, for both the person who is being talked about and for the person making the comment.

But hey, that's just me.

No, no good has come of this and there is pain and stress amongst all factions because of it.

Again, I am not only showing support for Shadow but also for John and
Lori and Gothic Edge.

As he doesn't know you, I doubt that J knew you or Stan were close to Shadow. I doubt he would have made that comment if he had known. We're not out to alienate folks over this, just get through an unfortunate event with as much of our sanity and sense of humor left as possible.

I am in love with Stan. Stan is close to Shadow. As I have said, I am one to support all involved. Until someone crosses me, then all bets are off.

I understand the attempt at getting through an unfortunate event. Just in the fashion which it is portrayed is not cool, kosher, acceptable and all of that jazz.

It only makes things worse and look bad - it especially makes Gothic Edge look bad if this is coming out of their business and if I worked or owned Gothic Edge I would certainly put a major stop to this NOW.

Again, that's just me.

That said, I want you and Stan to know that you are both very welcome at Gothic Edge anytime both by me personally and by the store as a business entity.

We never thought that we were not. We simply choose to remain neutral and in doing so believe it is in our best interests to stay out of the store so as not to be approached and/or tempted to get drug into the mess.

eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 26th, 2003 04:40 am (UTC)
Re: Gothic Edge.... Continued
I have no grudge against anyone who chooses to remain friends with Shadow, I have simply decided not to. I totally respect your choice to not make judgements against a person who has done you no wrong. That is an admirable stance, many people are quick to judge on little evidence, I am glad that you demand more than that.

Sometimes I am a very grown up person. It is nice to be able to say I'm not going to judge on X situation.

Then there are times when I am back in the 3rd grade and jump on the bandwagon and can get as nasty as the next person in regard to a situation that I should totally stay out of and/or keep my thoughts to myself. Basically keep my big mouth shut.

There are many people I like at Gothic Edge. Those people that I like either know who they are or I have simply never told them. There are others who work there that I will be cordial to, but whom I do not trust, nor will I, due to treatment I have personally received from them.

I will let the assumptions fall where they may and in that regard don't care. If that makes any sense to you.

I respect your decision in regard to friendship with Shadow. That is your choice.

As for me, and mine, we will support him all the way. As for me, I also support John and Lori.

It is quite hard to remain neutral. But I shall do my best.

The end of a relationship hurts everyone involved, whatever type it was.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Until I have more to say on the matter.

Again, remember, thoughts expressed in these comments are mine and mine alone. They do not reflect those of bigstan or Shadow, nor do I intend for them to.
carpdeus
Mar. 25th, 2003 11:56 pm (UTC)
Re: Gothic Edge....
I apologize... It was inappropriate for me to put the strikeout but it is a frustrating situation for me since the owner of the website won't release it to the company that paid for it.

As for the rest, I can understand your position.

I'll tell Megan hello although I expect she is going to email you, at least she said she was going to last night.

Peace
-J
eyes_of_beauty
Mar. 26th, 2003 04:45 am (UTC)
Re: Gothic Edge....
J - I fully believe you to be sincere in your apology and I accept it.

As Gracie so pointed out, you do not know me or mine and could not know who we are affiliated with. To Gracie I say - shame on you for not educating your man! (I say that in a very teasing manner and not mean it to be negative)

I can understand frustration. A friend of mine currently went through a similar situation but now has control of the website and can work on it from there.

Peace is always good.
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